perfect cell vs ssj2 gohan

Goku believes he is holding back so as to not destroy the planet, as well. Welcome to the forums! So while he was likely not using his full power at first, I think he was by the end given how stressed out the battle became. Assuming there's no significant increase in Goku's base form until Super, we use this as the base. Although I think the zenkai you mentioned is what pushed Cell to the SS2 limit, not that he attained SS2 and then managed to get an additional zenkai. Doesn't mean they are in the same league. Not to mention any further zenkais or failed destructions would make Cell unstoppable. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. cell wins. My reasoning would probably be because of their auras. If … I think people get overhyped about the allusions to his weakening since the Cell games. I don't believe there is an additional boost beyond that. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. We can assume that his 100% full health would be enough, but only by a little bit but Gohan still isn't mentally prepared to straight up kill someone yet. The attack Cell used was definitely not a particularly powerful one. This suggest Super Perfect Cell certainly had the power to injure him. Ssj2 Gohan vs Ultra Perfect Cell Thread starter Thdyingbreed; Start date Mar 21, 2011; Thdyingbreed Well-Known Member. ... DJF – Battle Wounded Son Goku vs Freeza $ 399.00 $ 285.00. There are 5 possible avenues for Gotenks strength: Equal to Super Saiyan 3: x400 Equal to Goten Plus Trunks Base Form: x2 (x800 in SS3) Equal to SS Goten Plus SS Trunks: x100 (x40,000 in SS3) Using Dragonball GT Guide on Gogeta, Fusion Dance is dozens of times stronger. SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 120 Super Perfect Cell: 100 SSJ2 Pre-Majin Vegeta: 100 SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 78 SSJ Goku: 62.5 FP Perfect Cell: 50 SSJ Pre-Majin Vegeta: 50 Dabura: 45 SSJ Kid Gohan: 40 SSJ Teen Gohan: 39 Reason I put Gohan's final rage boost so high is because he managed to Kill SPC after Battle Damage reduced his Power by 50% and with only 1 hand. I just don't think he would have the fortitude to do that and with nothing else pushing him he never would. I believe Gohan was stronger than SPC. We know him going all out would not have endangered the planet since we've seen much higher power levels fighting on Earth but that's not really worth discussion here. Keeping in mind the feat of 'lack of fatigue' Cell has - that does make it difficult to tell his effort level but I feel like it is safe to assume at that point he was genuinely wanting to kill Gohan and was putting in as much effort as it would take...which wasn't enough as we know. The beam struggle ends up being the best way to win. Then when Raditz was about to finish off Goku and Piccolo was injured, similar scenario as to the last moments of SPC, Radditz read off rage-Gohan's power level as 1370 and climbing. Gohan became much weaker as stated officially in the manga. Was it only possible because Vegeta distracted him? Gohan mops the floor with Cell. As for the PLs, I do indeed have a distinctive list for everyone, including the DB Super fighters (though most are assumptions). Goku possibly not comparing Dabura to a specific power level of Cell. My big question has always been how much power did that unlock-able boost actually give him? x24 refers to the low range of the GT calculation and 96x to the high range. If Gohan was stronger, it's not by much. The scouter read Gohan with a 710 power level. And yes, I love the connection to the auras. Film©1989 TOEI ANIMATION CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Full Power Perfect Cell - 12. I think Goku actually thought that he had taught Gohan to unleash it and that was why he was so eager to just let Gohan take care of it. Gohan is still quite a bit stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Though it was channeled attack, I think this is proof enough that even small attacks can be very powerful. Otherwise, Gohan's first Kamehameha would've killed Cell. Half-health Gohan was slightly less powerful than SPC at least as far as Ki goes but enough to not get instantly vaporized. This shows that at the very least, he was in the same ball-park as Gohan's strength. SS2 Gohan, while injured and fresh from Goku's death, had the power to completely destroy Cell while he was taken off guard. Gohan also seemed to be a bit fatigued giving the edge to dabura and thus cell. Again just my interpretation here but half health Gohan, from a ki perspective, is just a little bit below Super Perfect Cell. It's not a fight but it is a story. Perfect Cell or Ultimate Gohan vs. Super Buu? PFM18 , Apr 24, 2019 VKH – SSJ2 Gohan vs Perfect Cell $ 339.00. Time Stamps below to skip in game fights. A drop in the bucket at the SSJ2 stage. He must win in a direct battle. Goku was able to bring out more power out of Gohan because he was holding back, either because he was trying to protect the planet or because he was not enraged. To put things into perspective, I'll only give a short list for Goku's power levels and a snapshot of how I got them. The only thing I wonder is if Gohan was actually at half power considering how much power Goku was able to coach out of him, but you make a solid point. In any case, here are the current power levels and multipliers I have for each of Goku's current forms and possible ranges. Cell had both his arms and couldn't overwhelm Gohan right away and the got obliterated. Only 2 left in stock. If he had been fighting with that level of strength from the beginning and wasn't held back at all, I think it was very possible that Gohan could have won a true fight. I see no reason to doubt them in this regard. SPC got this. Cell was both serious and not serious while fighting Gohan in his beam struggle. Goku later convinced him that he wasn't really down to 50% and only thought he was, which made SSJ2 Gohan put his full power (what he was using when he was beating … 3.9K views. You are indeed where you belong. Gohan was emotionally wrecked after Goku's sacrifice, as he believed he was responsible. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. This gives us an assumption of 'boosted' half-health Gohan as a bit less than full health Gohan or as much as full health Gohan at best. A necessary plot device to make the fight interesting as otherwise it would be a one-sided affair. Join Community. If you have any questions, let me know. Gohan beat him when he was already injured. I feel Gohan wasn't ready to actually kill. We saw him holding ground at what looked like full exertion against SPC who was genuinely putting in full effort. This is the kind of stuff I analyze all the time and have a huge list. The killing blow, so to speak, wasn't so much that it made finishing Cell child's play but was enough to tip the balance and obliterate him completely. I refuse to believe Half-power Gohan>Super Perfect Cell, especially when Cell was able to damage Gohan as much as he did when Gohan was at FP, and SSJ2 is supposed to be only a 2x multiplier itself. I always believed Dabura's power was somewhat close to Super Perfect Cell, but not as strong. The Z-fighters have always been incredibly accurate about their gauges of energy levels. However in the latest Dragon Ball Super episode (hopefully there are no spoilers if you watch it) Frieza used it as his attack of choice when facing off in a beam struggle versus Aniliza (the Universe 3 Fusion). Dangit - now I have to look stuff up to figure out this next part. Dabura fought eveny however he still tought he could win. S+ refers to SS Goten + SS Trunks. How much does Gohan's 'boost' actually give him? Cell also displayed a ssj1 aura earlier in the show as well. SSJ2 Gohan destroyed “normal” Perfect Cell, so in conclusion, Super Perfect Cell is significantly stronger. His lack of experience, his personality, and the fact that Cell has many ways to survive give him a distinct advantage. 2 - He is consciously holding back and worried about the planet and those around him. Second is that Gohan had never actually killed an opponent and wasn't battle hardened. Boy, Super must give you an aneurysm then. + refers to Goten plus Trunks. This is certainly possible. Ssj2 goku plus seven years of training(we all know how hard goku trains) would be a stomp. Add to Wishlist + VKH – Freeza 1st Form $ 269.00 -37%. Any additions or things I missed? You must log in or register to reply here. I DO NOT OWN DRAGONBALL. This poll is now closed. I'm constantly trying to improve this list, looking for more accurate ways to determine the ranges. Once he realized even his new power was not enough, he'd IT to somewhere else on the planet and blow it up. So by that logic a hypothetical ssj2 goku during cell games would also beat ssj2 teen gohan. Before, Cell stood no chance obviously. It came down to the kamehameha struggle as a last effort. Since he was at half strength was it so much that it put him over his power level at full health? SSJ2 Gohan DID defeat Super Perfect Cell with his full power. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Half power Gohan was absolutely nothing to a Cell who wasn't even serious. The fact that Gohan was 50% and managed to hold his own and eventually overpower Cell with his full power makes me think a fully powered Gohan would have beaten Cell comfortably. Not much though or he wouldn't have held up as well in the beam struggle. So I'm researching and calculating the exact power levels (and feats) of every Dragon Ball Z character but a particularly critical match-up has become a very difficult one to answer. Personally, I believe that an SS2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell after a good fight, but he would lose to Super Perfect Cell. My Initial Conclusion: While there is plenty of evidence (and perhaps even a majority) suggesting Cell was stronger than Gohan at this point, I still believe Gohan was stronger simply because he had the strength to destroy Cell despite both his injury and his trauma. He was at 50% when he overpowered Cell. Goku's own comment about Gohan having the potential to surpass all of them present with the right motivation makes me feel that 25th Budokai Gohan probably cannot be too weak (like, I'd be surprised if he was only half as strong as his Cell Games self), which makes it harder to determine... Gohan would still be able to defeat Cell. Vegeta’s blast only distracted Cell enough for Gohan to gain his confidence and get some momentum going. I enjoy the challenge though. This. So we know Gohan at full health was holding back to protect the planet. Vegeta1000 8 months ago #1. Who wins? Anything would certainly help. Take a second to look at our. Gohan, fully healed and with both arms still stomps Super Perfect Cell imo, the gap is just too big imo. The list is HUGE and there's a lot of terminology, so I will only give a short snippet of what I have, just everything going up to the battle with Golden Frieza. Lastly we have seen cell go all out in earlier fights and his composure when he goes all out is not the same as his rematch with Gohan. While Gohan may have the power in edge, his personality and lack of experience are a serious disadvantage that would tip the battle against him. Alrighty - we've made some assumptions and it's time to go to the conclusion they lead to. Mystic Gohan was about 50% stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. A beam struggle was really the best way to win as it negates all skill in favor of a contest of brute force, which Gohan would have a slight advantage in. I personally favor Gohan as having more power than Cell given all of Goku's statements seeming to favor that as well as Gohan lamenting that he wanted to tear Cell to pieces. gohan loses high difficulty. There are no others around, so there is nothing for Cell to exploit to attain victory. I think he wished to break Gohan's spirit by beating him while not at full strength, in my opinion cell was probably going >50 but <75 when Gohan put the last of his energy into a Kamehameha. If it was more than half his original power again and that's what it took to beat SPC - we can predict that full health Gohan may not have a chance against SPC without others around to push him into unlock-mode. He was beating him easily. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. A good point. If Gohan was only ASSUMING he was at half strength and simply had to bring out his true power, this makes him more even with Cell. 6:10 -1st Cut Scene 16:45 -2nd Cut Scene 24:41 -3rd Cut Scene 36:06 -4th Cut Scene Press J to jump to the feed. While Gohan just intercepted a blast that would have killed Vegeta. Then for Super Saiyan Blue I will be assuming the lowest possible multiplier, x2. “Normal” Perfect Cell fought to a near standstill with SSJ Goku, with a bit of an upper hand. But I'll disagree that he would defeat Cell in the prompt. As Tagoma was compared to Ultimate Gohan, we then must determine his strength via Buuiccolo, the strongest fighter Gohan was definitely stronger than. 0. With both arms, Gohan is way stronger than Cell. Gohan Super Saiyan 2 VS Cell. Super Saiyan 2 Goku was stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Cell Games Gohan. And I'm not 100% sure Cell would have put up a fight if half of Gohan's power wasn't missing along with his arm. SSJ2 Gohan is fast but prone to standing around letting Cell act. Then he blew himself up and returned, gaining a zenkai boost. You guys missed the part where I said holding his own? SSJ2 Gohan was way stronger than Perfect Cell and somewhat stronger than Super Perfect Cell which is basically Cell SSJ2. This is certainly possible. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was 8 times stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. We never saw Gohan's full power at this time so we don't have a good gauge but this does tell us a couple things. Ah, I never considered that angle before. What we do know is that Gohan has a power level in his head that is his potential full power. Then his friends got blown away, he was the last stand of protecting the Earth, and Goku was yelling at him that he NEEDED to get that power out. So we really need to know how much the boost was. It's highly suggested that Gohan might have lost had Vegeta not distracted Cell. There are no other senzu beans and Gohan has no fatigue or injuries. And everything with SPC assumes that Piccolo is slightly weaker. First is that Gohan couldn't unlock that bonus boost at will. ©BIRD STUDIO/SHUEISHA, TOEI ANIMATION. Then he lost 18's strength. Goku vs Cell isn't really telling us anything. So you've got a few different phases of Gohan worth talking about in this fight. So in a fight it might tip in his favor given all the possibilities of victory. Didn't Vegeta explicitly say that Gohan was stronger as a boy? He was also distraught from having Goku (and Trunks) die. However, in regards to who would win in a straight fight, I believe SPC would actually end up winning. And if this theoretical battle happens on Earth he's going to try and keep his power level lower to not endanger the planet. 68.66% (46 votes) 46. Or does he loose after 7 years of peace? The NEW base form for Goku was even with Frieza's new Final Form. Full health Gohan, injured half health Gohan, and injured half health Gohan + "boost"...that's just what I've always called it in any of the cases where Goku or some other action forces Gohan to go above his own perceived power. SSJ2 Gohan is about 2–3 times stronger than SSJ Goku at the time. Consider the following scenario: Gohan has just taken a senzu bean to restore all of his stamina, but Cell has returned in his Super Perfect form. Gohan may have had the power to destroy him, but was he truly stronger? It changes how strong Piccolo is measured. Additionally, I believe SPC was incredibly confident (as always) and basking in his new found power. Cell was very confident in his victory, but so was Gohan prior to the fight. I DON'T OWN ANY OF THIS CONTENT. Goku increased by several million PL during that Zenkai. Was Gohan truly at a lower level of power thanks to this injury? If Cell was almost equal he should have overpowered Gohan in an instant. Cell mid diffs. This makes the most sense to me, since something like this would explain how a Full Power Perfect Cell(12) would get wrecked by SS2 Gohan(20). He was losing to Cell, until Vegeta hit him while in a very vulnerable position. It's very distinctive that Cell's aura changed to a similar one to SS2 in his Super Perfect Form. After gaining a huge boost, returning from the dead and injuring Gohan, Cell's confidence must have been at an all time high. I would cautiously suggest Cell's win here. Gohan raged with Goku's help and boosted to defeat SPC - I feel like it is reasonable to assume a 2x power boost from his current power level which was probably lower than half as he was injured as well as fatigued since when he claimed to be at about half his total power. Let's also consider that Gohan has this untapped amount of power that he's always never been able to use at will. 31.34% (21 votes) 21. ac_98521 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Super Perfect Cell. Dragon ball tends to hint at ability through aura alot and an aura's details can tell alot about a character or a form. If they were almost equal a one-armed Cell should have been able to overpower a one-armed critically injured Gohan like nothing. Okay, but a single pretty casual attack - it was only meant to kill Vegeta - from SPC was able to put Gohan in that state. I believe SSJ2 Teen Gohan is significantly weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and he was still stronger than Dabura who only had a slight advantage because he used magic and Gohan was rusty. He boasts his perfection even after noticing that others rival him. Using all of that - would a full health Gohan beat SPC in a 1v1 with nobody else around? It was only because of SPC's arrogance that he put himself into a position where he could be entirely destroyed. 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